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Why Roman Interest Rates Collapsed After Augustus Won | Fertility Economics Questions Answered | Friedman & Reagan on the Gold Standard – ep 304

Episode Summary

Gene responds to thoughtful listener feedback on record-low fertility rates and explores why childcare, IVF, and returning to work for fortysomething mothers can be so economically challenging. He then travels back to ancient Rome to unpack a curious moment after Augustus’s victory over Antony and Cleopatra, when treasure flooded into Rome, interest rates plummeted, and land values soared—and explains how this fits neatly into modern monetary economics. Finally, Gene revisits remarkable exchanges between Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan, and Ronald Reagan that shed fresh light on the perennial debate over the gold standard.

Episode Notes

Gene responds to thoughtful listener feedback on record-low fertility rates and explores why childcare, IVF, and returning to work for fortysomething mothers can be so economically challenging. He then travels back to ancient Rome to unpack a curious moment after Augustus’s victory over Antony and Cleopatra, when treasure flooded into Rome, interest rates plummeted, and land values soared—and explains how this fits neatly into modern monetary economics. Finally, Gene revisits remarkable exchanges between Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan, and Ronald Reagan that shed fresh light on the perennial debate over the gold standard.

Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com

Timestamps

Takeaways

  1. Childcare costs are structurally high due to labour intensity, mandated staff–child ratios, and qualification requirements.
  2. The “motherhood penalty” is real and appears driven partly by human capital loss during career breaks and partly by occupational choices for flexibility.
  3. Augustus’s influx of treasure into Rome increased real money balances, pushing interest rates from ~12% to ~4% and boosting land prices—an excellent real-world example of short-run monetary non-neutrality.
  4. Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan both advised Ronald Reagan NOT to pursue a gold standard, arguing fiscal discipline and controlled monetary growth matter more than metal backing.

Links relevant to the conversation

Referenced Previous Episodes

Is Gold Flashing a Warning Sign? 

https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/is-gold-flashing-a-warning-sign-ep303

The Great Baby Bust

https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/the-great-baby-bust-why-it-happened-and-what-it-means-for-us-ep300

The Gender Pay Debate: Understanding the Factors Behind the Gap w/ Dr Leonora Risse - EP230

https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/the-gender-pay-debate-understanding-the-factors-behind-the-gap-w-dr-leonora-risse-ep230

The Gender Pay Gap w/ Dr Leonora Risse

https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/the-gender-pay-gap-with-dr-leonora-risse

China’s falling population & global population update - EP174

https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/chinas-falling-population-global-population-update-ep174

U.S. Census data on rising singleton households

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/06/more-than-a-quarter-all-households-have-one-person.html  

“The Motherhood Wage Penalty: A Meta-Analysis” – Social Science Research paper

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X20300144

Florida childcare staffing ratios

https://www.elcslc.org/parents/vpk-locator/licensing-files-what-to-look-for/state-of-florida-mandated-adult-to-child-ratios/

Australian childcare qualification requirements

https://earlychildhood.qld.gov.au/careers/qualifications-and-pathways/approved-qualifications

Books Mentioned

Tom Holland’s translation of Suetonius – Lives of the Caesars

https://www.amazon.com.au/Lives-Caesars-Suetonius/dp/0241186897

Sebastian Mallaby – The Man Who Knew: The Life and Times of Alan Greenspan

https://www.amazon.com.au/Man-Who-Knew-Times-Greenspan/dp/0143111094

Mark Blaug – Economic Theory in Retrospect

https://www.amazon.com.au/Economic-Theory-Retrospect-Universiteit-Amsterdam/dp/0521577012

Cassius Dio – Roman History

https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/e/roman/texts/cassius_dio/51*.html

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